GaiaGuys.net shut down

Update (1/3/08): Dyson and Vivienne are free! You can find out more by checking the comment section, and this article from The Age!

I made this page back in early December 07 because of a random urge to vent my frustration at the sudden disappearance of GaiaGuys.net. I had been interested in the site for a few years, and was aware of the legal battle they were having with the Ordo Templi Orientis. At the time, the last thing I had read on the site was about their extradition to face charges of contempt of court. When all I visited I only got "No website is configured at this address". After I couldn't find any sign of them anywhere, and emails weren't answered, I started to worry for the wellbeing of the sites owners. So I wrote a late-night, depressed post in the hopes of finding someone that knew what happened, and went to bed..

Google loves me. Seriously. Overnight I somehow became the #1 result for searches for "gaiaguys", and I was overwhelmed with the amount of people looking for the same answers.. Heres the short version of what happened:

What happened to Gaiaguys.net ?

  • The websites owners removed the site themselves under advice from friends.
  • The Ordo Templi Orientis Australia website posted a new press release, heralding a 9 month prison sentance for the owners.
  • They were arrested, imprisoned, and served 2 months of the 9 month sentance
  • They were released from prison on the 29th of February after apologizing for defying the court, and promising not to publish the vilifying material again.

A lot more happened along the way, and I made some assumptions that I shouldn't have publicly posted. Now that Dyson & Vivienne are out of prison, I just want to back away, and put this out of my mind for a while..

What was Gaiaguys.net about?
This site covered a lot more than just the "Religious Vilification" that got them imprisoned, like:

  • Corruption within the Australian government and police forces
  • Research into the various cults & secretive groups in Australia
  • Records of years of correspondence with powerful figures within our govt and media
  • Environmental issues, protesting development & logging of our forests
  • They were the (only?) Australian representatives for the Disclosure Project
  • Translations of the contact logs between UFO Contactee Billy Meier and P'Taah
  • A massive collection of Crop Circle photos and articles
  • Research into the growing numbers of Chemtrails over Australia
  • Studies of ancient/occult symbology and its appearances in modern society
  • Alternative clean energy sources

Recommended Reading:
"Reina Michaelson's Story" by Dr Reina Michaelson (Young Australian of the Year '97)
"Blood on the Altar: The Secret History of the World's Most Dangerous Secret Society" by Craig Heimbichner (Thanks Maadj)
"Secret Rituals of the Ordo Templi Orientis" by Samuel Weiser
"The Book of Law" by Aleister Crowley (Founder of OTO, Master Mason & Satanist)
Any book on the history and belief's of the Ordo Templi Orientis.
Any book on the lengthy history of police corruption and paedophilia rings in Victoria.
The information being made public via the Disclosure Project
"Knowledge and Wisdom Spell the End to Anti-Semitism" By Vivienne Legg (Note, google cache is outdated, look elsewhere)
"Silencing Dissent" by Clive Hamilton & Sarah Maddison

More Coverage & Online Discussions:
Besides the comment thread below (That will remain open) this story is recieving a bit of attention lately (finally!). Heres a few of the more interesting discussions and coverage I've noticed online:

Disclaimer- Adamdodson.org in no way suggests that the Ordo Templi Orientis or Freemasonry are guilty of child abuse or any other illegal activity. The supposed accusations made against both parties have not been investigated, let alone yet proven in a court of law. We are in no way actively affiliated with the now defunct gaiaguys web-site and any reference to it on this site is written without Dyson Devine and Vivienne Legg's permission, knowledge or consent. Adamdodson.org is an open convention of free ideas and the views and opinions expressed by individuals within the forum are not necessarily those shared by the site owner or it's moderators.

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First, good to hear Gaiaguys are out of goal. (And thanks Adam for your work here.)

Second, the whole matter that landed the Gaiaguys in goal in the first place has turned into a 'throw the baby out with the bath water' episode.

Where originally did the Gaiaguys get those allegations of elite child sexual abusers?

From a supposed witness statement by someone called "Mick" in the article first tilted "Sarah's story" (Later admitted in court written by Dr. Reina Michaelson's http://www.csapp.org.au)

Reina, early 2000 you asked the Gaiaguys for help exposing elite child sexual abuses, you got it -- They even went to goal putting their lives and possessions on the line, defending "Micks Story".

Reina, the stage is set, it's time to bring out "Mick".

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Sure these individuals are sick puppies however how many of their debauch sins are now being pushed into the mainstream as todays norm even it yestedays degeneracy just like homosexuality or BDSM once seen as sic depraved and unnatural however are todays variety of libertine permissive kink norms. Before us mere profane mortals not invloved in these networks can ever tackle such Mountain of corruption we need moral cleanout much closer to home within our own families and friends as this sick values are becoming all pervasive day by day in this NWO with their main mediums being the Education system and the Mainstream media esp commerical media.
Only once we christians and other concerned whistleblowers get this diease cleaned up much closer to home can hope to tackle its insidous hardcore source. For example i think Mr morgan you would be surprised just how much many of todays youth in society are brainwashed by debauch sexuality many now think group sex and eg orgies are now the norm just check out any mainstream dating site to see proof you dont have to venture far. This not the stuff of secret socities these are now mainstream post modern values now in the prcess of being brainwashed into the majority as normalised behaviour and we traditionalists are now seen as the anomie.
Until we stop the moral relativist rot in society as whole (which face it, isnt likely) will never be able to make the slightest impression on this illuminati offshoot. Like Revelations in the bible ses things are only going to get worse for us orthodox Christians and Traditional moralists, satan will have his way on this foul earth and theres not alot we can do including being mic chipped into this Ophite Gnostic inspired nightmare we best just find our faith Jesus Christ instead of trying to save the world as its a losing battle i mean leave what is the world to the world leave what is still holy to God that would be the orthodox christian God if you are me.

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The wierd thing about all this is that the OTO aren't satanic at all?

I would say that anyone who would claim such a thing is an impressionable person who is basing their information on heresay, with little to no research on the matter.

To have any real understanding of the practices and ideas of the OTO, one would need to do a fair amount of research on mythology, egyptian mysticism, jewish mysticism, christian mysticism, psychoanalysis, archetypal psychology, creative visualisation, art therapy and tarot. These are what make up the fundamentals of Thelema.

Satanism is much less complex in its conception, and is either rooted in theism or atheism, yet both are at all levels monotheistic (if you consider the simple mathematical statement that 0=1). Thelema is hierarchically not monotheistic (although at its topmost level it is).

Yet while like theistic satanism or luciferianism Thelema is in essence a Judaeo-Christian religion, its roots are much older than the Christian concept of satan (which is merely the offspring of the Hebrew word adversary). If OTO and Thelema are satanic, they are only satanic in the same way that any fundfamentalist christian might consider buddhism, hinduism, atheism, or capitalism to be satanic; in that if it does not worship christ, then it is the work of the devil.

Unlike theistic satanists and luciferians though... Thelemites do not worship Satan.

In fact they worship God!!!

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I just got off the phone with Dyson. Vivienne and himself are both free and happy of the fact.

*Snaps to attention and salutes Dyson* " Sir.. Glad to see you made it out OK Sir"
*Tip's hat at Vivienne* " Hope you were treated well in there Maam."

Well now... Time to make good on my end of the bargain and walk away quietly. Farewell dear reader. Here at the shores of the sea comes the end of our fellowship. "Captain William Morgan" must now step back into the pages of history from where he came. His name and murder now avenged. This has been a sweet victory. Many mainstream papers are running with the story and it is all over the net. The OTO are getting to be investigated by the most powerful court in the land. The court of public opinion. Not that this is the end of matters and a time for complacency. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. The Masonic agenda of a New World Order is far from quashed and there are still many battles to be fought. May they all be as victorious as this one.

My days left in this world are scarcely limited however. I think it was this final fray that kept me going from day to day. As I write this I feel the life force of the Valar ebbing from my body. You must all carry on the fight without me I'm afraid. May you all find the courage and strength to see it to the end. It is true that we live in a world without many heroes. But I hope dear reader. That by viewing this story... You can clear your mind from the material shackles built up from birth and look deep into your spirit. When you do... You just may have found the hero in you.

Farewell everyone. May all your days be blessed.

Signing out for the last time EVER. ( Touchwood )

Bill Morgan

PS: I'll see you all at Genoa one day. It is truly a place worth getting to.

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Thank God they are free. Now, maybe you'll find something constructive to do with your time, instead of all this Hate.

I am a Thelemite and an active OTO member. I was, and still am, repulsed at gaiaguys' accusations, but I will admit one thing.

The Book of the Law certainly is full of things that do shock and disturb some people. I don't think you'll even find a single OTO member who doesn't have an issue with at least one thing in there. But to take what is obviously an allegorical work and assign a literal meaning to select phrases is deceit. To charge that these purported abuses were perpetrated by Thelemites (with no actual evidence), just because of a very biased interpretation of the Book of the Law, is wrong. It is hurtful to us. Thousands of people worldwide who pledge to fight against tyranny, superstition, and oppression are now being called pedophiles and murders. Brothers and Sisters in your country have lost their jobs over this nonsense. Some have had to move. Good names have been besmirched, and all over these completely absurd allegations. It is Blood Libel, and we deserve it no more then the Jews of Europe did.

As an OTO member in the United States, I certainly hope that the OTO in Australia is throughly investigated by the authorities for any wrong-doing. It would not only absolve them of any wrongdoing whatsoever, but I'm confident that any competent investigation would show quite clearly that Thelemites are, for the most part, quite decent, honest, hardworking, and positive people, much like the vast majority of practitioners of any other religion.

Nothing will ever change your mind about Thelema, the OTO, or Crowley, so I won't try. I just wanted to tell you off. Since I am a civil being, I won't say "Fuck You", but you can just imagine my finger of shame being pointed squarely at you, Good Sir.

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Another news link from *GASP* fox news it seems on the story.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23295269-2,00.html

Still can't get the official release statement for Vivienne but it seems from all quarters that they are both free. We can all sleep a little easier tonight. As I am sure they will be too. :)

Bill Morgan

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Thanks for the heads up Ant the court location change threw us a bit off course.

I contacted corrective services and Dyson is officially free but they still have Vivienne registered as in custody for some reason. I hope that it is just a bungle and they are a bit slow in amending their records. This is fantastic news alright. Neither of them ever belonged in prison at all.

Poor babies at the OTO have got their knicker in a knot over this site now. Lucky for that air tight disclaimer. I am a man of my word however and as soon as I get official confirmation that they are both free, I have to give myself a long holiday and rest this big mouth of mine for a while. Thankyou all who have given Gaiaguys their help and support over the last three months. Especially to Adam Dodson who bravely vanguarded the front lines and gave me a forum to post on. ( A lot of people wouldn't have ). I must admit. Being involved with Gaiaguys in the way I was. It was a large motivation of self preservation for me to fight this injustice. Adam however did all this out of compassion for his fellow human being, moral duty and a genuine concern for freedom of speech in this country. I could not have been as effective an opponent to the OTO without him. * Salutes Adam * Sir Adam... You have proven your quality of spirit and made a trusted friend and ally from me. May your days be blessed for your virtue, courage and honour.

Great news of their release. I am going to pop the cork of a rather cheeky little bottle of wine I have been saving for this day, later tonight. This is just a victory of one battle and not the war though. Freemasons are rank still in Parliament and the OTO still have to be investigated. Time to find out who's involved with what and vote these barstards out of office. While we still have a democracy left to vote them out with.

Great work everyone. My warmest thanks again to all who helped out in the case. Power to the people.

Bill Morgan

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This just popped up on the Love for life post:

Dear Misguided Dyson Devine and Vivienne Legg

Well, now you're in prison after all your lies. If you happen to get out of prison; you
should come to my website where the reading thereof will educate you on the truth on
who we are. I am the greatest genius; and leading authority in these matters and no one
but myself is qualified to discern between such items.

I am the true head of the O.T.O.; being the Inner Head of the Order;
and I was very happy to see you two in prison. Now, let that be a lesson to you
and if you are caught lying again; you return to prison with an even longer sentence.
Bill Morgan has been slandering us of late, as well, and it might very well take another
court case with he as the next to go to prison. I have been told by my assistant Mr. William Breeze that Bill Morgan is another dangerous liar. He should be publicly warned that we are a harmless religious group; and his slander will only result in lawyers and court rooms. Since we are NOT Satanists; nor in any way break any laws in any country; I see more slanderers need to be shown the error of their ways.
Stand warned; and I, G.M. Kelly will not tolerate you, this imbecile Bill Morgan or anyone else lying about the O.T.O.; and as its Leader will find you and sue you again and again until justice is done in the courts.

Yours Truly,
G.M. Kelly
Head of the O.T.O. world wide

*You can almost scrape the sleaze of the monitor from this one*

Don’t you morons at the OTO get it yet. VCAT CANNOT GAOL PEOPLE. Not unless they don’t comply with the orders and I will be as soon as I smell a suit. ( Yes.. Even before I have to pay your fees ). Then the next in line steps up and you losers have to start from scratch all over again. Also drop the nice act OTO. Your grand master poohbah of depravity has shown your true colours. Bring action if you dare and can scrape up enough pennies from under your couch cushion. It will prove just as futile as gaoling Dyson and Vivienne and will just add my name to the list of martyrs. If the OTO is so damn harmless. Then why did one of your brethren, Mathew Murray, go on a shooting rampage in the States? Crowley’s garbage is eye gougingly corrupting and damages the spirit and the psychological ego. It serves no proof other than the power of the written word can cause harm as well as good. Time to face the music OTO.

The Daily Examiner picked up on this story also. Well done all at the Examiner who won't give up free speech without fight:

http://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=37640...

LIBERATE GAIAGUYS NOW!

Bill Morgan

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truthalwayswins

Dyson and Vivienne are out of prison, and are free as of 4.15 this afternoon. This, no doubt, will be reported in the press in due course.

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Thanks for the support Louise.

Getting the OTO investigated is entire problem here from day dot. Dr Michaelson had made discoveries into an Satanic based paedophile ring operating in Victoria. One that had members associated with executive and high level political circles and even some famous celebrities. We are chasing the paper trail and will post it later. But anyone can see that the OTO were not investigated in the slightest. Yet Dr Michaelson was made to feel like she was in the wrong for speaking out.

A certain television station was pretending to assist the good Doctor out even. But it turned out they had no interest at all in helping and were probably just discerning information and building obstacles for her cause. The Victorian police have not investigated the matter. Some have even been implicated. As yet I believe a Victorian police officer ( and Christine Nixon ) still has to write an apology for calling a young girl who was the victim of sexual abuse a "little slut". Dr Michaelson was gagged in the court from ever speaking about the allegations again. That's when Gaiaguys picked up on the story and ran with it. They contacted DPP and the Attorney Generals plus dozens of other relevant authorities. All to no avail. With every white wall they banged up against they would publish the transcripts online so we could witness the corruption ourselves. They also had one of the best masonic exposure sites I have seen with the most insight into the shadowy world of guilds and secret cults. This combined with the massive daily hit rate they garnered form their website. Made them a embarassingly dangerous entity to the Masonic institution and the OTO.

The fact they are in gaol and the OTO are still to be investigated is why Dyson and Vivienne are martyrs. It was a clever move of the judicial system for them both to be trialed by a female magistrate. Masonry doesn't still allow females into it's ranks yet. ( That's enlightened of them in this day and age...Sexist pigs ) There is however the Order of the Eastern Star which is the ladies version of Masonry and we are investigating any connection. But as this whole debacle proves, it is hard to understand these guilds agendas and members while they operate so clandestinely. That is why it is so important to oust these secret societies and see exactly where they are coming from once and for all.

The Masonic nepotism is rank in this case. Anyone else with these accusations aimed at them from a registered Doctor would be investigated. Unless if it is directed to the guild connected status quo... Then those that speak out get made to feel like the criminals. Where's John Howard's ASIO file for the 600,000+ civilians he murdered in Iraq during his term. What a genocidal maniac. That butcher gets to live the rest of his days calling himself honourable and a man of steel on a cushy government pension. Yet it is the good peaceful people who speak out against the war that get investigated and have ASIO files opened on them ( If I haven't got one...Then they are not doing their job properly ;) Until I see a complete INDEPENDENT investigation into the OTO I am not going to be happy. Every day there isn't one just indicates how far those goat f--kers at Parliament house have sold out over to the dark side. But have faith justice will be done at the end of all this. Hope can move mountains.

We all have the advantage of wisdom of retrospection here. We can look back through history and see the influence and implications from guilds like the Freemasons woven into it's thread. At exacty what point in our history, did the society as a whole get the matter sorted out and have a big chat about Freemasonry and it's members being so involved in public service? Truth is we have never had that chat at all. We wil be living a lie until we do. Until these groups get a light shone on them also they will be a breeding ground for degenerate paedophiles because what safer environment to operate in than complete secrecy protected by fraters who will even perjure themselves in court for you. They invite this sick dogma and credos into their lives on their own "free will". Yet I bet if they ever got caught and thrown in front of jury they would be first crying out that the devil made me do it.

So don't bother trying the silver tongue routine OTO. I wasn't born yesterday. I concur that there is violent reference in the Bible. Yet it is in a historical context to educate us so we don't make the same mistakes twice. ( Not that it helped at all it seems sometimes. *sighs * ) The first testament can be quite scary yes. But the second had a message of a good man. A man who came to this earth to teach compassion, love, forgiveness, kindness, mercy and died horribly for his efforts. ( By Imperialist hands.) Aleister Crowleys message is far from that. There is no other way of taking that sort of filth. Don't try for a second you can justify his teachings as well meaning. Also don't try and make it sound like your concerned for Dyson and Vivienne. Your the barstards that put them in prison in the first place. All that I think when I see an OTO talking all nice and new age like that is how they fit my interpretation of what to look for in a stinking Satanist... Deception. You are quite right about that bile chewing away at my liver. Make sure your not standing in the way when I start spewing it because it will leave a nasty stain.

Tomorrow is the big day people. Lets all wish Dyson and Vivienne good luck. If all go's well you will see a post here in their own hand by the afternoon hopefully. May the judicial system comes to it's senses on the matter.

LIBERATE GAIAGUYS NOW

Bill Morgan.

truthalwayswins For those

truthalwayswins

For those interested, the following is taken from VCAT listing for 28/02/08:

THURSDAY, 28 FEBRUARY 2008

ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LIST

Hearing

Please note: this hearing will take place at the COUNTY COURT, 250 WILLIAM STREET, MELBOURNE
Vice President Judge Harbison
2:15 PM A132/2005 Ordo Templi Orientis Inc & Anor v Dyson Devine & Vivienne Legg

~~~
LET TRUTH AND JUSTICE PREVAIL!

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Please be serious. Every religious book has violence "exploits" like The Book Of The Law has... just read the Bible for God's sake!
Tolerance is to leave people free to believe and practice what they want to.
Gaiaguys started a violent defamation without any proof, except mere words.
I feel so sad about Dyson & Viv's situation, but you can't keep on eating your liver out with your rage just because some friends of yours have been jailed beacuse of their ignorance.

You guys have red the Book and did not understand what is written there. It's not simple to go trhough the massive symbolic stuff in that poem. So don't pretend to be those who hold the sword of the righteous ones. Live and let live I say.

And about the net... if you search for information on the worldwideweb you can't find everything and more, but if do not use the filter of your intelligence you can fill your brain with tar... tha sometimes blinds your mind and makes you vent your frusrtation against the first person "not like you" that you find on your path.

Blessings.

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I am absolutely disgusted that Dyson and Vivienne have been gaoled over this. There is plenty of information on the internet which shows that Ordo Templis Orienti are up to no good. This organization needs to be infiltrated by Federal police and ASIO to find out what they are up to. Shame on that judge. Does she have masonic connections?

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I got a Christian friend who just read that last post. He found it vilifying to his religion that "The book of law" said that a hawk's head should peck out the eyes of Jesus on the cross.

He's seriously thinking of bringing a religious tolerance suit against the OTO for this. They better go and get Dr Freckleton to represent them pro bono again. Maybe he's read up to the letter "D" in the dictionary by now. I also wonder what our Islamic community would think of the line under that one? They really can get defensive on that certain subject matter.

See the point yet OTO? Your lawsuit was a pathetic hypocrisy from a group of so called, "advocates of free will." If you want the right to exist as a entity. Then people are going to bag you out... That's life. Most main stream religions get more bad press and just as disturbing accusations sometimes thrown at them also and take it on the chin. They also get it from main-stream-media as well as the world wide web. Time to stop the madness this week.

DROP ALL CHARGES... LIBERATE GAIGUYS NOW!

Bill Morgan

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*Reads yesterdays post and slaps self* “Whoah… Steady there tiger.” The OTO’s stinking literary filth does do nasty things to the constitution. The OTO better thank their lucky stars I don’t subscribe to their lore. Because there wouldn’t be very many of them left at the moment if I did and they can 93 that all the way to the bank. Anyhow here’s a brief history of the man himself as I read it. What a sad tale it makes.

Aleister Crowley (rhymes with slowly ), was born 12th, October 1875 as Edward Alexander Crowley at Lemmington Spa England into a strict Christian family who belonged to the, ( Interestingly enough ), Exclusive brethren. A radical wing of the Plymouth Brethren. One thing that is for sure is both his parents were a walking advert for birth control.

He rebelled against the strict doctrines of his parents faith, ( prompting his mother to label him the beast ). He began studying into the occult while an undergraduate at Cambridge. (*coughs* Old-boy ) Combining eastern mysticism with western science, He originally joined a group called the Golden Dawn. ( An esoteric occult group linked with Freemasonry ) Around November 1898, Crowley dubbed himself Count Vladimir, ( Dracula wannabe or what? ) and began moving up through each successive level of ability. He eventually graduated from the first order and sought entry into the second, the Order of the Red Rose. It gets hazy here but it seems that he pissed off the wrong people in his organisation and they bashed him, *Nelson Muntz laugh - HA HA*, so he fled with his tail between his legs overseas.

He married Rose Kelly in 1903. While she originally had no interest in the occult, she began falling into trance-like states shortly after her honeymoon trip to Egypt; ( He probably slipped her a mickey ), she convinced Aleister that Horus, the Egyptian god of light, was trying to communicate with him. So it seems that if Gaiaguys talk to aliens, then that’s insane. But it’s quite rational to base your life on drug fuelled dribble which apparently was narrated by a psychic message from his guardian spirit, the devil-god Aiwaz,

He wrote the book of law in supposedly three hours thus he came up with a religious system called The Law of Thelema. Thanks for that legacy to the world Al. Nice one loser.

Breaking with the teachings of the Golden Dawn, he was determined to dedicate the remainder of his life to developing his Thelemic philosophy, including this development of will, which he referred to as "magick." The number 666 gained in significance in his teachings, and he began to call himself "The Great Beast." The reputation for wickedness that this name provoked from most people only added to his growing sense of empowerment. Man, has this guy got self esteem issues or what?

Referring to himself as "The Great Beast" (and allegedly, "the wickedest man alive") earned him a few hangers-on from some degenerate sickos. But the rumors of drugs, orgies and magic ceremonies ( Which we now know as fact ), didn't make him too popular among the straight set. His many philosophical and occult writings form the backbone of the contemporary movement called "magick."

In 1906 Crowley founded his own chapter of the third order of the Great White Brotherhood, known as the Astron Argon or Silver Star. Four years later, he was contacted by Theodore Reuss, leader of a German cult of Freemasons called the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO). They too were deeply involved in magick, and Crowley joined, eventually becoming the head of the Order. He restructured the OTO to conform to his Thelemic principles, and broke with the Freemasons, thereafter allowing men and women to join. From 1909 to 1913

In 1929 Crowley married his second wife, Maria Ferrari de Miramar, and published Moonchild, a novel that depicts the efforts of rival magicians to create the miracle child predicted to be the future leader of their craft. ( Sounds like NAZI eugenics to me. )

By the mid-1930s, reality caught up with the author of this fantasy fiction. His lavish, hedonistic lifestyle had extended far beyond his thirty thousand pound inheritance, and a heavy drug addiction did little to stabilize a failing financial picture. By 1939 Crowley's creditors were forced to take a small percentage of the money owed following bankruptcy proceedings. The following decade would prove to be a black one for Crowley, who supported himself through royalties off such published books as Diary of a Drug Fiend, The Book of Thoth, and Magick in Theory and Practice, and whose home had been reduced to a room in a boardinghouse. His popularity in the United States had been slight on the heels of the pro-German propaganda he released there during World War I; in World War II he shocked and alienated even more people by commenting that "Before Hitler was, I am." The atrocities of the Nazi government diminished Crowley's past activities by comparison, and such a comment reduced him to a pathetic, jealous, disturbed, sick, sad, little man. He died, broken and destitute, in Hastings, England, on December 1, 1947, aged 72, shortly after his physician had refused to supply the morphine on which Crowley had become dependent.

Wow, what a cool guy. I’m going to idolise him for sure…NOT. This bio was ripped off from an unbiased source. Interesting to see the amount of mentioning Freemasonry has to do with Crowley. I think it is really time all these guilds came clean and said who is batting for what team. Lesson in this kiddies. DON’T DO DRUGS! From reading his gibberish you can almost see the potential for this man to have actually done something with his life and contributed to history rather than stain it if he had shown a bit more moderation. As for the Satanic reference. Here are some excerpts from his book of law. You be the judge:

We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world. ( Doe’s that mean we get to stamp on Crowley when he was a sick, frail old junkie curled up in his boarding room floor going cold turkey? )

Now ye shall know that the chosen priest & apostle of infinite space is the prince-priest the Beast; and in his woman called the Scarlet Woman is all power given.

I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure of innocence is a lie. Be strong, o man! lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture: fear not that any God shall deny thee for this.

I am alone: there is no God where I am. ( No bloody wonder you weirdo. )

Ah! Ah! Death! Death! thou shalt long for death. Death is forbidden, o man, unto thee.

Now let it be first understood that I am a god of War and of Vengeance. I shall deal hardly with them.

Sacrifice cattle, little and big: after a child.

Ye shall see that hour, o blessed Beast, and thou the Scarlet Concubine of his desire

The best blood is of the moon, monthly: then the fresh blood of a child, or dropping from the host of heaven: then of enemies; then of the priest or of the worshippers: last of some beast, no matter what.

Another prophet shall arise, and bring fresh fever from the skies; another woman shall awake the lust & worship of the Snake; another soul of God and beast shall mingle in the globed priest; another sacrifice shall stain the tomb; another king shall reign; and blessing no longer be poured To the Hawk-headed mystical Lord!

The ordeals thou shalt oversee thyself, save only the blind ones. Refuse none, but thou shalt know & destroy the traitors. I am Ra-Hoor-Khuit; and I am powerful to protect my servant. Success is thy proof: argue not; convert not; talk not over much! Them that seek to entrap thee, to overthrow thee, them attack without pity or quarter; & destroy them utterly. Swift as a trodden serpent turn and strike! Be thou yet deadlier than he! Drag down their souls to awful torment: laugh at their fear: spit upon them!

Let the Scarlet Woman beware! If pity and compassion and tenderness visit her heart; if she leave my work to toy with old sweetnesses; then shall my vengeance be known. I will slay me her child: I will alienate her heart: I will cast her out from men: as a shrinking and despised harlot shall she crawl through dusk wet streets, and die cold and an-hungered.
But let her raise herself in pride! Let her follow me in my way! Let her work the work of wickedness! Let her kill her heart! Let her be loud and adulterous! Let her be covered with jewels, and rich garments, and let her be shameless before all men!

his book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast

I am in a secret fourfold word, the blasphemy against all gods of men.
50. Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!
51. With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.
52. I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him.
53. With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din.
54. Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.
55. Let Mary inviolate be torn upon wheels: for her sake let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!

There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.( Well I thou tell thee all too get lost losers )

Love is the law, love under will.

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Mightn’t be any reference to Lucifer or Satan. But there is reference to exactly what Gaiaguys insinuated and it is disgustingly far from any holy scripture I’ve ever read.( Some of it is real verbal diarrhea. ) The OTO are it’s own worst enemy. It’s bad PR lies in its own existence. They are not a religion and how they can get enough people to make up even a small cult astonishes me. The beast and scarlet woman are obviously ripped off straight from revelations so how do you happy little Thelemites explain that one? Look at where his life led him. Being a despised, down and out drug addict living in a disturbed fantasy land of vile, carnal lusts, desires and addiction. His road led him to where all those end who follow his path. Would you wish this life upon anyone? Meanwhile the two people who tried to blow the whistle on this crap are put in jail by the Masonic establishment.???? WTF

LIBERATE GAIAGUYS NOW!

Bill Morgan

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No one who is really inside the OTO would talk like that.
No one who embraces the law of Thelema whould wish death to another person, expecially in this sad situation.
The Order worships life!

I am shure that the guy who signed his thread as Charles Robinson is just a liar who wants some spotlight on his everyday rage or frustration as well, and has nothing to do with the OTO.

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In a world without many heroes. Barney Zwartz, religious editor of "The Age", ( Fairfax publishing ), just swept down from the sky to print this story. ( The only main-stream-media outlet so far to even touch it with a ten foot pole ). How he got it past the powers that be astounds me and it addresses some things more candidly than most net stories I've seen on the matter.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/couple-jailed-for-contempt-in-vil...

*Bows deeply to Barney Zwartz*

You Sir... Are a credit to your profession and your faith. This is why it takes ten Imperialist Atheists to match one Spiritualist. Because the Atheists are mired and bogged in the material politics of this world and only want to make this life as easy as possible. The spiritualist is free from these Imperialist chains and won't comprimise their ethics to adjust to this life. They uphold their ideals to get ready for the next life. I take my hat of to you Mr. Zwartz for your well written story and bringing this travesty of justice to a more main-stream audience. I am in the process of sending you as much relevant information on the case as I can for your perusal.

Dyson and Vivienne know of the story also and liked it a great deal. ( Plus found it most incredulous that it was printed in the first place.) They had an attempt at appealing on a technicality yesterday, but the effort was fruitless. Still hoping for the 28th that the matter be resolved. They will not re-offend. The site is down and will remain down. They are also prepared to apologise to the court for the contempt. ( But not the initial accusations I believe.) Now instead of dealing with one site bringing light to the matter of SRA. The OTO and government now have to deal with several sites and we have a couple of martyrs thrown in to boot. This action has failed miserably. Time to think about the long term here powers-that-be. Let them out and I walk away quietly. Keep them in gaol and I promise I will see both the Australian Government and OTO pay DEARLY for their audacity.

They had better be released soon because I have not even begun to bring out the big guns yet and I am starting to lose my patience. The government doesn't want me to start telling people about the way things really work in Federal Parliament house. They don't want people to know that beyond those smoked glass doors you see leading in the House of Rep's chamber on the South side. Is a fully stocked bar of top shelf spirits, wine and Chesterfield leather lounges, ( Bought by you the taxpayer ). Where most of the politicians spend their days getting drunk at our expense. Where both parties laugh it up TOGETHER and "rehearse" their question time acting routine put on for the publics amusement. They don't want you to know that I was trained at Windsor by the Tactical Response Group (TRG) to apply ILLEGAL techniques in crowd control. They don't want you to know that we were told that if the left-wing media ever caught us using these techniques on civilians. We would just be suspended with full pay till the whole thing blew over on the proviso we don't squeal who taught us said illegal techniques. They don't want you to know of the underground tunnel network leading to Barton Defence offices. Reffered to internally as "the dungeon", or the fully stocked bomb shelter for politicians and their families to protect them in case of attack or disaster. It is accessable by certain lifts inside Parliament house that have an un-marked button below the B1 for basement. ( Meanwhile we the public all get blown to smithereens ). This is just the broad stuff without naming names or the guild nepotism I witnessed. *Looks sternly at the Commonwealth bank, Paul Keating and Bob Hawke* This will come out later if I get cranky enough and my patience is wearing quite thin at the moment.

The Government doesn't deal under coercion. Take a good look at our foreign policy. The Australian government is the biggest blackmailing son-of-a-bitch bully in the Southern Hemisphere. No prizes guessing who it is in the Northern region. *coughs...Bushit*

Free Gaiaguys this week Australian Government or by my life and death I will see you reap a damn sight more problems than just embarassing SRA links to deal with. They won't be just accusations either and will be backed up with hard facts and witness testimony. That's not blackmail either you abysmal pack of goat copulators. Thats politics the way I learnt it first hand while employed by YOU. You are reaching the point of no return this week you Imperialist dogs. Liberate Dyson and Vivienne or you will experience my full un-tempered wrath. ( So far this has just been me blowing a lot of hot air. Something you slimy toads understand quite well. )

*Starts singing:- "Your'e not the boss of me now... Your'e not the boss of me now... Your'e not the boss of me now and your not so big".*

Look forward to the 28th with bells on.

Bill Morgan

PS: We will also be publishing the full November transcript on the 29th February if they are not released. Anyone who reads it will soon realise why it was not available for public viewing. Gaiaguys are martyrs. They are political prisoners and they were royally shafted by the insitution.

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I'd take it's authenticity with grain of salt. But below is a classic example of the sort of sick, twisted puppies were dealing with here. You guys at the OTO really need a good PR guy because that sort of vitriol is not doing you any favours. Wishing for two peaceful people to die in prison for trying to shine a light on SRA is not good form to say the least. Time to take a break from that garbage you put in your brain and go outside and smell the flowers. ( Plus have you rung your mother lately and told her you love her... Naughty, naughty little Thelemite.)

This is not a magical sign Thelema is taking over the world. The OTO is a tiny, loose formed pack of drongos with their heads stuck up their asses. They are NOT a religion they are at best, a cult. Like most cults they are dangerous to your mental health and general well-being. As the dribbling rant below proves.

Sorry loser. You will never see me in gaol or even court. If you followed the case at all you will know that VCAT has no authority to imprison people. Unless they fail to comply with orders to remove offending material. We have learnt from Gaiaguys experience. ( Fool me once... Shame on you. Fool me twice... Shame on me.) As soon as we even smell a lawsuit we will pull the plug here and I'll just pop up some where else. Leaving you all back at square one to start all over again in proceedings. ( Meaning more money to fork out ) If I ever did fall. There are an endless list that will just step up in my place. We will win by artrition you depraved degenerate so don't waste your time and money because I know your insidious brethren aren't abundant in either commodity.

I have been polluting my brain with Crowleys garbage of late but until I educate myself a bit more I won't comment on the Satanist label. By the way... He wasn't the prophet of Aeon. He was a pathetic waste of space that gave nothing to the world but some nonsensical texts which idiots like you still decide for some reason beyond me to give credence to. Anyone in doubt of the damaging effects of Thelema only has to look at the below blog to see it's disturbing symptoms in living colour.

Suck it up losers. Face the facts... You are not going to win this way. Open your doors for a full investigation. If you feel the public is misinformed, then educate and inform us. No... But you won't do that will you? Because you know damn well any rational mind that comes into contact with your philosophy would find it abhorent and disturbing. Not to mention ridiculous.

Plus no... You are not going to goad me into revealing what is in store for you with anal taunts like that. Hear that whistle in the distance you ass-hat. That's a train heading your way and it's packed to the brim with a load of karmic justice. Toot, Toot... Best keep of the track little man.

Get a job. Get a life and stop pretending your some tough ass boogeyman. I'm not buying it bozo. From my experience. People like you that need to feel they have access to strange powers. Are usually the skinny little kids that got picked on at school and need to compensate. Really... Get help!

Ah.. that feels better. Haven't had a good flame vent in a while. Please keep it coming OTO. Keep writing crap like that and I won't have to bother doing anything to discredit you. You seem to be doing a fine job on your own.

Bye creep. Have a nice life.

Bill Morgan

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This engineer gets killed by slipping over in his bath tub. He was a good, kind soul and lived a temperate life. But instead of going to Heaven he mistakingly went the other way to Hell. Satan asked him what did he do when he was here on earth to justify him being there. "I designed and created great engineering marvels to make everyones life easier on earth", said the man. Satan didn't understand so he asked the man to demonstrate. The engineer built a big air-conditioner and it did make the temperature more moderate and everyone enjoyed it. "What else can you build?" asked Satan. The man started working at it and soon he had made a pools and condos and Park's. Pretty soon, Hell wasn't such a bad place to be after all.

One day God came down for a visit and to make sure there was no mischief going on. "What's all this?" he said in surprise, looking around at the how nice everything looked. Satan explained how this engineer had come down and done the place up a little. God checked his books and soon realised that there was a mistake and the engineer was actually meant to go with him to heaven. "I'll take him now with me if you don't mind!", he commanded of Satan. "You can't have him", snarled Satan back at the Lord. God drew above him and bellowed, " Look here... I am in no mood for your antics today Satan. You better hand that soul over now or so help me I am going to sue you."

"Oh Yeah", replied Satan with one eye cocked. " And just where are YOU going to get a lawyer?????"

*sighs... OK I'm no comedian I get it*

Just a quick update to confirm that Dyson and Vivienne's remittal hearing is on the 28th February, 2008 at the Victorian Civil Administrative Tribunal, Melbourne. If anyone in the vicinity wishes to go. You can get the daily law listings from the following link to seee what time it is on:

http://www.vcat.vic.gov.au/CA256DBB0022825D/page/Daily+Law+List?OpenDocu...

We will be keeping our finger crossed and a close eye on the days events. Let's hope the madness ends there. A little birdy floated through my window of late. ( Check your plumbing VCAT ). It bought with it the full transcript of the November hearing. We won't be posting it now because it may affect Dyson and Viviennes remittal. It does make interesting reading though. It wasn't as bad as expected but some of the legalese garbage that they come up with makes me sick to my gut. That Dr. Freckletons a pompus fart with a fetish for big words starting in C. Here's my impression of him:-

*Put's on stuck up, haughty old-boy accent*

Your Honour,

As councilor for the Crowlian complainants. I concur to the complexity of the calumnied contempt and it's considerable consequences to my cohorts. It is my candid call that the criminals contumelious non compliance with the commision, commands a condignly constructive conviction of incarceraction in the concentration camp cooler cage. ( Try saying that ten times fast )

Now imagine sitting in the imposing environment of court with your ass on the line listening to this sort of rubbish. The OTO had it's victim impact statement read out. ( I'm crying you a river you losers ). Can't really comment to much as yet but we'll see how thing go on the 28th.

Time to start the well wishes. Let's all hope the judge see's reason and sanity on the day and releases them as of that moment. Keeping them in gaol has proved nothing, stopped nothing and has just stirred a hornets nest. Time to put things right again.

Bill Morgan

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Dyson has been moved from maximum security to the Loddon facilities in Castlemaine. His new address for writing to is:

Dyson Devine
CRN: 190373
Loddon Prison
Matheson Street
Castlemaine, VIC, Australia, 3450

Also some good news is that Dyson and Vivienne are both scheduled for their remittal hearing on the 26th or 28th of February. ( conflicting dates from corrective services opposed to VCAT ). Hopefully this will at least see them both out on bail. Loddon is a gaol specialising in prisoners affected by drug problems and mental health issues. At four people per cabin, I think I would prefer a nice quiet solitary cell on my own to just read and twiddle my thumbs. Rather than dealing with the dynamics of those problems. Dyson has not been diagnosed with any mental illness. The OTO pushed for that label in court but the judge said she couldn't justify it. He was then subjected to a mental health assessment in prison due to his "unusual beliefs" and he passed with flying colors. A blow to anyone who wished Gaiaguys theories were the stuff of delusion and fantasy. While in custody both Dyson and Vivienne are legally under the jurisdiction of the state. The government has duty of care to all it's prisoners. If either get any ill treatment from guards or other inmates. They will sue the Government for so much money that they can buy a new farm again and still have enough money to fund a hefty propoganda campaign.

On another note. We have been looking under some rocks and doing our own personal investigations into Gaiaguys statements of Satanic ritual abuse. Something is really fishy here. To be perfectly honest I think that there might be another player involved in all this. One so shadowy and secretive that no-one that knows of it's existence dare even whisper about it. The actual registered Ordo Templi Orientis that bought charges against Gaiaguys is not a group of elite status quo. Quite the opposite most are unemployed deadbeats or working in medial jobs. From the investigations we have conducted so far. I am starting to percieve that there might be another group involved in this fiasco. One that does consist of the celebrities, politicians and members of the upper echelons of society. One that has protection of the police and authorities. It was bought to my attention that in the Lashtal forum, an actual OTO member insinuated this as well. But their post was quickly removed and they were warned of libelous accusation by the moderators. It makes sense too. No group of actual practicing child molesters are going to register themselves as a religion under Crowleys lore. They may as well hang a big neon sign saying "scrutinise me" over their heads. I am beginning to explore the possiblity that there is another actual paedophile network operating under the lines of what Gaiaguys described and using Satanic based themes in their crimes. I am not going to point any fingers without solid proof though and we will keep looking in the most sordid of societies nooks and crannys till we get to the bottom of this.

FACT: 30,000 people go missing just in Australia every year. One person every 18 minutes disapears of the face of the map leaving a big gap for their family and loved ones to fill. A sobering statistic. But the more sobering question is what happened to them?

This issue is to important to ignore. It is one of those things that can cause the most hardy of spirits to cringe in revulsion. Most people won't even allow their mind to entertain the concept for consideraton. Unless it directly affects one of us and by then it's to late. Anyone that has the constitution for it is invited to put on a pair of THICK gardening gloves, ( Some of those spiders have a nasty bite ) and do your own investigations into SRA in Australia. Have a good long think before you start looking under those rocks though. Like I have said before.... Ignorance is bliss. Like innocence also... It can't be regained once lost and will affect your perceptions till the end of your days. I would be fibbing if I said there weren't times I wished I was oblivious to all this and the biggest worry on my mind was just the trivial fancies of mundane, everyday life.

We have decided against the PO box as anyone who I want to contact me has my details already. It would just attract mail from undesired sources. If anyone wants to liase with me personally then please do so through this forum. Just post what organisation you represent and I'll get in touch with you in private.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed for the end of the month and hope it see's Dyson and Vivienne liberated. Also let me just add that I am BITTERLY disapointed at the Green party's response to all this. They can endorse borderline illegal activity to save a tree or a whale. But when it comes to this issue they won't get involved in the slightest. I believe their ethics are comprimised and that the Green party is nothing but a token gesture by the masonic Government to get the demographics of environmentalists on side and specifically under guild control. When Bob Brown was going after the exclusive brethren over a year ago. I wrote to him saying don't just stop there. Lets get ALL these guilds exposed and out in the open for public scrutiny. His answer was that when dealing with secret guilds and societies. One must express extreme "caution" and he had no plans in ousting the Freemasons himself and could not endorse any other political party to do so. So Bob Brown, exactly where doe's your allegiance lay? To the people of Australia and the environment? Or to the old-boys guilds that allow your party to exist as an entity, only as long as you play by their rules?

Still got some big news in the pipeline concerning the OTO but we are getting things organised and will wait for the right time before announcing our intentions. That's the problem with living your life with the credo, "Destroy all who would thrawt you"... There is always a bigger fish!

Keep writing. Keep singing and stay beautiful people.

Bill Morgan

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Just a check in to say keep up the good work everyone. This story is slowly networking out and I am being met with pre-knowledge of the case by people I haven't contacted before. Good work and Thank you to all who are contributing to this fight.

This is really giving my age away. But here's a little piece of satire from my era that I never actually got to watch back then. It seems that this generation was not to first to see through the veil of Masonic cronyism. Done by the masters of mirth, Monty Python. Please check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwwztaZUkUw

Now here's a conspiracy theory for you all. Let's say that a Masonic guild ridden Government had two embarrassments. One was a pair of left-wing radicals who blew the whistle on several legislative flaws and pocket-pissing, by certain fraternal factions in high places. Gaiaguys was on the ball at logging land being sold for $1.00 an acre between Masonic fratres. Gaiaguys wasn't just accusing...It backed it up with hard facts. Gaiaguys showcased the plight of Dr Michaelson as well as other whistle blowers in Australia. It displayed blatant proof that the authorities responsible to act on such complaints, at least have a head in the sand attitude towards Satanic ritual abuse. It also bought into question the basic religious belief system that we are fed as kid's in the Western world from day dot on every level. That's what made them so damn special in the first place. :) It was a classic pop-culture web icon.

Then here's the next embarrassment... A group of hedonistic, social outcasts who by the law of mere dynamics, conglomerate together and pour their time and energy into the ranting philosophies of a self destructive old pervert. Thus trying to justify their wasted lives as a right to religion. The nasty situation is that Crowley stole a lot of his ideas and structure base from Freemasonry. This is a politically incorrect link to something that so clearly is un-Australian and abhorent to MOST practising religions... Including the top three in the country, which consitute millions of people combined in numbers.

So how do you silence the Anti-Government Gaiaguys web-site that is spitting in your face? A web-site that openly links you to a miniscule slice of the community (60 something members) of self admitting Satanists. An organistion that contributes nothing to society, to say the least. A motley crue of misfits who still have not been investigated for the the most foulest of accusations. It is obvious the Masonic Government wanted gaiaguys silenced. But it is not that dim-witted to do it themselves. Who do you think would be arranged to be the fall guy for this oppression of dissent? Who do you think would be made the Patsy? Who is going to have the tables turned on them at their moment of smug victory?Finally, who in the end is going to come out looking sqeaky clean astride it's shiny white horse with it's armour gleaming golden light and their lance of justice and virtue waving in the air?

This story is far from finished. But I implore everyone who gives a damn to keep on it. Keep writing to anyone you think can even be interested in the case. Anyone that knows history... Knows that the outcome to this tale was determined long before it went to trial. But for the play to be completed, all actors must stick to their script.

The next act is when the wolves get thrown to the sheep. (sic)

Bill Morgan

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Vivienne is being moved from maximum security in the Dame Phyllis Frost Centre into the more medium security of Tarrengower facility. Both her and Dyson are still doing fine, yet I am afraid I can't comment to much as to what their plan of action is for two reasons. One is since I am in contact with them, it could be suggested I am speaking on their behalf. Which could add to their legal woes. The second is that we don't want the wrong people to know what is being laid in the pipeline prematurely. They will find out well enough when the time is right. If you find your curiosity getting the better of you. Then please feel free to investigate this matter independently. My PO Box is pending still.

Vivienne's new postal addresss will be:

Vivienne Legg
CRN 190380
Tarrengower Prison
Corner Baringhup & Nuggety Roads
Private Bag 1
Maldon, VIC, Australia, 3463

Any mail already sent, should be re-directed internally to Tarrengower. The CRN# is their Corrective Services Reference Number so it shouldn't be that hard to find them in system.

It seems this case is slowly starting to get the attention it is deserving of. Please keep writing to both media and your local politicians. Don't let free speech die with a whimper... Let's make a fray of it to give it the funeral it deserves. The patronising charge of "wilful disobedience" is just a guise for a much larger issue here. If the O.T.O are allowed to advertise their hate-filled, paedophyllic, carnal based cravings of a drug f---ked dirty-old-man on site. Then people have a right to object to that "life-style choice" and they have a right to speak out against it. If they didn't and we had no object point of view or exposure. Then these thing's remain hidden in the dark and actually do exist without fear of scrutiny and prosecution.

Look up the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). Ask yourself, should they exist?...Look up the Klu Klux Klan (KKK) site and see for yourself where they believe some races where conceived from. ( Eve and donkey ) Though it sickens me somewhat, we live in a new era where these ideas, images and inflaming rhetoric are allowed to exist in the cyberworld. What has to be kept also. Is the ability for those that disagree with these ideas to speak out freely. It is not just a right... It is everyones duty to object and tear apart any groups that espouse such insane theories so the next generation can learn from the mistakes of the past and not be destined to repeat them.

What is being taken away by Dyson and Vivienne's imprisonment is all of our rights to state openly our objection to the philosophy of ANY REGISTERED RELIGION. This is dark-ages, archaic, dogmatic oppression by the powerful guilds and their associates. To silence sedition... To silence dissent towards a corrupted, Capitalist establishment of bloated fat-cats. An all-important, arrogant elite who sans remorse, stuff their coffers while using us all like the convict colonialist's we once were. Still clinging to the rancid old alliances made back when the insipid, Imperialist invaders first STOLE this land from it's indigenous population. We are not moving forward as a nation, while we lock up any individual who doesn't quietly step into their pigeon hole and eat the grain that's tossed at them. We are not moving ahead while guilds, secret societies and right-wing political groups refuse to even recognise that the public is not misinformed or ignorant anymore.

If speaking out and vilifying certain religions is a crime. Then lock me up now and throw away the key, because I'm a loudmouth, opinionated, leftist, crank, blow-ass (In case you haven't guessed yet) and I am never going to stop discrediting some sectors within the myriad of religious groups in the world. One thing I didn't discredit though. Was two environmental and politically aware, peaceful people who believed in the very likely chance that there is life beyond the stars. Gaiaguys was not a hate group. It wasn't a cult, It didn't ask for funding and didn't sell out to spam and advertising. ( Though with it's peak hit rate it could have easily done so ). Look at the Gaiguys site. Then look at the OTO's site, Lashtal and read a bio on Aleister Crowley. Think about the sort of person that would embrace and espouse Crowleys ideals. Then just ask yourself.....Who the in the bloody hell should REALLY be sitting in a prison?

Bill Morgan

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Crowley was a weird asshole thats for sure but don't pretend Dyson Devine is a saint. He has a habit of ripping things out of context and stabbing people in the back with his "exposes" on his former website. He's NOT a 'nice - peaceful guy', ok!

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Absolutely! Gaiaguys defamed dozens of politicians, public servants & celebrities, with nothing more than innuendo - no hard facts whatsoever. Their only 'source', Dr Reina Michelson, backed right away from them, courts ruled against them, but rather than accept the judgment they simply labeled anyone who didn't go along with them as 'masonic conspirators' and refused to accept the verdict. And yes, that leads to jail.

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* VIVIENNE IS SAFE AND WELL *

Received a letter from Vivienne yesterday. She is doing good and is not being persecuted at all. Vivienne has everything needed, so like Dyson doesn't require any care packages or money at this stage. She pointed out that having to much stuff can invite envy from other inmates.

Both Vivienne and Dyson are forbidden to discuss the case or the groups involved anymore and it could add time onto their sentence. But we aren't. :) It was also indicated that their Gaiaguys days are at an end. :( I would just lke to mention, that I am in no way acting on behalf of Vivienne Legg or Dyson Devine. The statements I have made so far in this forum have been without their knowledge, permission or consent. Neither of Gaiaguys founders endorse me in any way and I state all points of view at my own free will.

My hands are legally tied a bit as to what I can disclose from her letter and I have to be cautious. Vivienne thanks all for their support and well wishes. Both herself and Dyson are unified in their stance on the subject and won't be comprimising their idea's or ideals at all. Vivienne pointed out again that both herself and Dyson are totally opposed to any violent action being commited on their behalf concerning this matter. Vivienne's cell seems to have all the mod-cons and the food is plentiful and good. They are both in a good mental and emotional state and can "generate their own peace". They are allowed inter-prison visits so they both can see each other every now and then. We hope to still go to Victoria but are not in such a rush now we know that they are OK and want for naught. From what I gathered, Vivienne has her own cell. So there is no threat in relation to what the nice Victorian policeman described.

I encourage all of Gaiaguys supporters to begin correspondence themselves with Dyson and Vivienne. Also I plead that you to write to your local political members and spam the main-stream media about this affair. The "Catch the fire ministries vs. The Islamic council" case was mediated before a ruling could be made. So Gaiaguys is an important precedent that is pivotal to freedom of speech in this country. The legislation that allows groups to litigate under religious vilification is a secularist, politically-correct farce. Religions are inherently, by nature, opposed to each others philosophy and viewpoints. If a practising Christian was to enter a synagogue and hear a Rabbi discredit the belief in Jesus' divine status. He would find it insulting and abhorent to his faith. The only reasonable solution is not to put yourself in that position and keep out of the synagogue all-together in the first place. ( Or web-site ) Now apply that to the polarised differences between Thelemic Satanists and anyone with a shred of moral fibre, let alone those of the Christian faith. It seems to me, Gaiaguys only crime was that they weren't representing a registered religion. So they were easy to pick on.

Time to pull out the stops and lets get active and loud everyone. * Swivels roller chair out to the front and waves big pen in the air *

People of Gaia... My Brothers and Sisters. I see in your eyes, the same fear that would take the very heart of me. A day may come when the courage of us all fails. When we foresake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship... But it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields, when the age of freedom of speech comes crashing down... But it is not this day. THIS DAY WE WRITE. By all that you hold dear on this good earth. I bid you stand and write, people of Australia. ( My apologies to Mr Tolkien for the plagiarism. But it's such a classic call to rally I just had to borrow it )

I'll be getting a PO box setup for this campaign and will post the details here when it gets established. In the meantime... Spread the word. Keep this topic in the public domain and don't for a second let up on getting Gaiaguys story out in the open. This tale is far from over. Don't fear what the nasty elements of society will do if you write your truth. Fear what they'll do if we don't.

Bill Morgan

People shouldn't be afraid of their government's... Government's should be afraid of their people! V

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*CONTACT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED*

Just recieved a letter from Dyson. It is in his unmistakable tone and style, so I can assure the reader of it's authenticity. Mind you, he pointed out again that all incoming and outgoing mail is being vetted by prison staff for obvious reasons.

He is doing fine and has been treated well. He got his first mail on the 18th Jan, 2008, which is why he took so long to respond. He has also gotten a letter from Vivienne which was great to hear. They have not seen each other since the 9th December 2007. Vivienne is also doing well. He say's both of them have fitted into the prison system without a lot of drama and it's not so bad.

They are beginning proceedings to appeal under " a fair-dinkum " legal team, who are alarmed at the situation. It won't be disclosed now who will be defending them. But soon enough it will be public record.

Against my advice, he is going to stick to his guns and not comprimise his principle's or integrity. ( I asked him to say whatever it takes to get his arse outta there... Hey, call me sellout. But it's not you in gaol is it? ) He has been granted access to his own reading library and looks forward to studying his FIGU material at night. Dyson has mentioned that at this stage financial assistance is unwelcome. He will stay in maximum security. Then he will be moved to medium in a few weeks. The same intention apparently is for Vivienne. He stated. " Jail is not bad. The foods good but the cell is cold. " The cell is 4x2 metres. What can you say for such a calibere of character? Here is his final passage word for word.

"Please do not pity us, as we are not deserving of that. We walked into this with our eyes open and think that the elemental power of truth can be left to do it's work without a lot of hands-on anymore. From the two former "gaiaguys". Yours in appreciation and solidarity...Dyson

A footnote states: "We are not in protective custody with the paedos, against VIC & NSW police advice."

Dyson mentioned that he's even made some friends. We are heading to Victoria soon. *YAY-ROAD TRIP* Now we have made contact and the ball already seems to be rolling. Everyone can now please send your support and morale boosts. Dyson can be contacted directly at:

Dyson Devine
CRN 190373
Melbourne Assessment Prison
317 Spencer Street
West Melbourne, VIC , Australia, 3003

Vivienne's direct address is:

Vivienne Legg
CRN 190380
Dame Phyllis Frost Centre
Riding Boundary Road
Deer Park, VIC, Australia, 3023

Remember all correspondence is checked by prison staff. So keep it nice and polite please. He seems to indicate that they were prepared for this, as one best can be. So at this stage they really only need a gentle gesture of good cheer, from all who wish them well. This is a fresh breeze of good news from both fronts. The main challenge was finding a solicitor that Dyson and Vivienne felt comfortable with. That seems to be achieved. Without me having a hand in it. Now onto the second phase... Getting them out.

I'll probably be offline for a while getting organised for our Vic trip. All of Gaiaguys supporters can breathe a little easier tonight. Unless he wrote the letter with a standard corrective services baton waving above his head menacingly. He is doing fine and has adjusted quite well to doing his porridge. Lets all hope now that they don't have a chance to get to comfortable and are freed quick smart.

Thanks for all the positive energy fellow Gaiaguyans. Reporting soon from Victoria. I haven't seen this kind of stoutness from a good soul in a long time. In typical Dyson fashion, he was more worried about upsetting all of us than his own well-being. I doubt I could find the same strength of spirit to brush of melancholy and despair in that dire environment. Truly they are both worthy of song.

Keep on rockin' in the free world.

Bill Morgan

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Sorry to waste time EFG. I only obtained your contact details yesterday. Check your mailbox and you'll have all the information you requested. Make sure you check both e-mails I sent to get the full picture. We value Dyson and Vivienne a great deal. But under the circumstances our movements are naturally tempered by caution. You will have everything you need in there to bring you up to speed. Hope to hear from you soon. My apologies to both you and Gaiaguy's for taking so long to respond to your offer. Your aid is still most welcome and we wait eagerly for your swift response.

Bill Morgan

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Hopefully linked below is the Court orders from the November the 28th, 2007 VCAT hearing.

Just a quick run through them. In the complainants column it indicates OTO & Anor. ( Anor abbreviates for another )... The plot thickens. As the orders go, number 1 is self explanatory. Number 2 means that both Dyson and Vivienne have every right, which they will be excercising ASAP I hope, to appeal the sentence handed to them. Number 3 means that they have been ordered to pay for the OTO's legal cost and the court cost. At the bottom is the proof that they recieved no legal representation at all. Shown in the non-appearance label by the respondent. Which is a good basis for appeal in itself.

Still no word from Dyson or Vivienne so we have sent in someone to look for them. I have been making the error of reporting some details before the fact sometimes and it doesn't help grease the wheels of Government departmental communication. I'll be hearing from Dyson and Vivienne or the internal investigators either way within the next few days.

I will be personally going to Victoria but I'm afraid that there will be a champion sent on my behalf to actually enter the facilities. I'm sorry, but I just refuse to do strip searches. ( Unless they buy me flowers and a box of chocolates first ). We have persuaded the comrade with the largest girth to take one for the team and after 15+ hours of his rather enormous posterior stuck on a sweaty car seat. I pity the corrective services officer who has to inspect him. :)

I wish these self admitting Satanists would stop bothering to deny the charges that they are facing. News Flash Thelemites. We don't believe a damn word your saying. You are going to be independently investigated so I'd start cleaning the house and ranks up now. That's not a threat either... It's a promise. If you think that is provoking you... Then you obviously have something to hide that you fear can cause your demise. An innocent group would have no problem being looked into so they could clear their name once and for all. I don't give a flying fig about what you choose to worship as a consenting adult. But there are allegations of child abuse made. They are from a reliable source and they are going to be checked out.

Oh... Actually we don't have to anymore because the nice Satanist said they don't do that sort of thing. If you can't trust a Satanist, then who can you trust? Plus.. What would a Satanic worshipping group of Thelemites be doing involved in a Satanic Ritual abuse ring? How outrageous to even think it. They must be the pleasant type of Satanist's that bake cookies and donate to the charities, hospitals and orphanages. ( Sarcasm.. NOT )

We are willing to publish a full, open, public apology after the Ordo Templi Orientis have been completely investigated and found innocent. ( Including the individuals up in the status quo that have been mentioned ). Until then I am going to keep being a real thorn in the OTO's side. I was already one for the Freemasons so it's nothing new to them. Let them bring me to court if they dare. Between me using it as a soapbox for my anti-Masonic rhetoric and a pivot on the principles of free speech between religious view-points. The OTO won't get any outcome from such an action but grief. I will turn up. I will be represented and I will see them rue the day they ever thought that they could silence me. There's plenty more that will take my place if I do succumb. I learnt from my Parliamentary security training not to bother trying to start an open activist group. The Government will plant a stooge in the ranks and they will know everything you are planning. Plus try to break up the group with in-fighting, disinformation and mistrust. We are organised like the old Phantom comics model. One "singleton" at a time causing outspoken mayhem for the establishment. If one person falls, then another steps up to take their place. So far it has worked a charm. Also if you think I'm a pain in the glutes. Wait till we get Dyson and Vivienne back out, up and operating. The best thing the OTO can do now. Is to drop all charges against Gaiaguys and welcome a complete, independent investigation into their organisation. Otherwise we are just going to get it the hard way.

Let's all hope for some good new's quickly. The not knowing of Vivienne and Dyson's safety is very uncomfortable to say the least. Hope to post soon with the OK. Can't find a shrink so far that is ready to go on record and professionally state what I know for a fact is mere delusion. Strange how a video camera makes people think twice about what they are verbally commiting themselves into.

Bill Morgan

PS: Greetings Mexico... Glad to hear from you. Won't be long now till we get this mess sorted out so stay tuned.

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You can find the Court Orders here

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Go Gaiaguys!!! I send all my love and best whishes foy you guys from Mexico

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Still no word from Dyson and Vivienne. It's pretty much confirmed they are residing at her Majesty's pleasure, in Dame Phyllis Frost Centre and Melbourne assessment Prison.

Excuse me for missing that info EFG...Judge Harbison was the presiding magistrate at VCAT on the case. I believe it was late November for the hearing. There are no FOI restrictions on the transcript and I'll be posting it soon as I get it.

To add another monkey on my back. I did some research on the mental health aspect of this case. It has been mentioned by several legal practitioners that Gaiaguy's could play the nut-ball card. I personally don't feel that Dyson or Vivienne are suffering any more delusion than someone who thinks the world is only 6000 years and we have all the animals safe and sound thanks to Noah's quick Ark building skills. There is no more scientific proof that Jesus existed any more than aliens. So to say that makes them insane is straight out crazy itself.

Here comes the scary part. Throughout history it is common knowledge that accusations of insanity have been used to silence political dissidence. I know for a FACT the influence Freemasonry has over our society and Government. I used to work there and saw it with my own beady eyes. I am aware of the Masonic link's to the IMF and World Bank. I am convinced of it having an agenda of a one world government or New World Order. ( Over my dead body will they achieve such a goal ). I have seen the picture of George Bush in the Skull and Bones group photo. I have seen John Kerry evade the question of it on CNN of his membership. ( Plus that kid got tazed in Florida for asking him... Check it out on Youtube ). I know Freemasonry exists because their windowless lodges pepper every part of the map in the developed world. I know Bob Hawke was a Freemason, as was George Washington and Winston Churchill. These are common, in your face, admitted facts.

So I dottered off to my local GP yesterday to do a little social experiment. After the usual check-up I told him I have been very anxious of late concerning whats happened to Gaiaguys and how the corrupted Masonic establishment has treated them. I told him of my experiences in Parliament House and how I truly believed that there is a program to bring the world under one Masonic government. The leader of which would wield supreme Imperialist power ...Thus being supremely corrupted. I also told him of Dr Reina Michaelson and how she was treated by the government and media after she reported at first on this story. Which she had to do mandatorily as the good Dr pointed out. Anyhow, his diagnosis of me is I'm suffering paranoid delusions and should be refered to a head shrinker... WTF. This is a massive misuse of psychiatry to silence sedition. It is also illegal as I found when checking the chartered law on the subject.

Australian Mental health Act 1986 ( No 59 of 1986 ) clearly states:

(2) A person is not to be considered to be mentally ill
by reason only of any one or more of the
following—

(a) that the person expresses or refuses or fails
to express a particular political opinion or
belief;
(b) that the person expresses or refuses or fails
to express a particular religious opinion or
belief;
(c) that the person expresses or refuses or fails
to express a particular philosophy;
(d) that the person expresses or refuses or fails
to express a particular sexual preference or
sexual orientation;
(e) that the person engages in or refuses or fails
to engage in a particular political activity;
(f) that the person engages in or refuses or fails
to engage in a particular religious activity;

This is such an obvious abuse of the mental health legislation. I'm going to dust of the camera and go to a shrink to get this crap caught on tape. It's fine to believe any nonsensical garbage. As long as you don't believe our government is corrupted by Freemasonry and selling us out to THEIR vision of an Arcadian utopia. ( Them Master....Us Slave ) Two streets from the clinic there's a damn, stinking Masonic lodge. Am I making that up Doctor? Or is it a vacant lot and I'm imagining the whole friggin' building? Interesting to see how many more medical practitioners consent to this sort of diagnosis for stating the bleeding obvious. I hope to get several points of view recorded on the subject.

I really hope Dyson and Vivienne keep quiet in prison. First reason is that everyone inside has a lot on their minds and are not interested in hearing " The truth" of how it really is. Second is that they could be forced to take labotomising, psychotropic medication. In a worse case scenario they can get zapped with a good old dose of electroconvulsive shock treatment if they are diagnosed with suffering any dangerous mental illness. ( Dangerous to the Ordo Templi Orientis and Freemasons maybe ). As my Dr proved yesterday. It is possible for them to be placed in that pigeon-hole and I'm sure he's a lot more liberal than the Victorian prison institutions psychiatrist.

It's fine for me to pick at the bones of this carcass while I'm enjoying my freedom. Let's face it. First priority is getting them out of gaol and if it takes a mental health plea to do it then I hope they grab that ball and run with it all the way home. Frankly, I feel that it might come to that. Though it's like having the Pope telling Galileo the Earth is flat and if you don't agree with me your screwed. Wow...Has that pendulum swung far to the other side. Those Freemasons have short memories it seems.

Nervously awaiting the news that Dyson and Vivienne are alright. Will be posting my shrinks visit's and diagnosis' on Youtube soon under the title, " The Insanity of Sedition ". Still no response from the Greens at all. * Sighs * I'm going to start a phone campaign next week. Not as easy to ignore.

Time to oust these elitist, secret societies and bring them back to to the one undevisive society we all belong to. It's called the human race and we're all in this together.

See you later fellow crazy people ;)

Bill Morgan

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Sorry Evil Freemason guy. It's been a busy day and I just understood your post. Finally... A white Mason comes forward to show his quality. Gaiaguys was the first to admit that not all Freemasons are inherently evil and most join initially from a healthy, positive perspective of what they are in for. It is not until the higher levels doe's the vows of protection and perjury, ( unless for treason or foul murder ), come into it. Though you'll have to excuse me for not supplying my details, I'm a shy sort. Yet as far as contributing your help and point of view to Gaiaguys situation. You are most welcome. We are on the same page as far as the plan of action and I believe your advice is on the level. Dyson and Vivienne have both been advised to go mute till we get a lawyer present. I personally would welcome you to help. Just for the sake of white Masonry proving a point. But for Petes sake don't introduce yourself to them as evil Mason guy. In fact it's best you save that pearl till once you get them out.

Let's all put things into perspective. I am getting no divine messages or talking to any aliens. In the same way that Satan hasn't done me in yet and I haven't been spirited away in a saucer for a jolly good probing. I don't fear any ghosts, aliens or the supernatural. If the Queen Mother was a shape-shifting reptile alien leader. Then why didn't the poor old dear shape-shift herself a new hip? What scares the crap out of me is mans inhumanity to man. Unfortunately the most horrific offender of that is the rich, greedy, power hungry white guy. ( I can say that cause I'm Anglo-Saxon so it's not rascist ). So far there's no unmarked helicopters or men in black, but at least my brain can comprehend them as threats. I am not so close-minded to say E.T's don't exist though. It's a big universe. What does exist. Is peoples belief in them and they have as much right to adhere to that as any Thelemite, Christian or Scientologist ( Although that Tom Cruise video just didn't do them any good PR at all ).

Anyone that knows the history of Freemasonry, also understands it is nothing more than mere ritualised science. Which back in the ignorant old days was seen as alchemy ( If you were in favor with those in power ) and Witch-craft, if you were not. How you apply the "Craft" ( for the sake of pop-culture lets call it the Force ) is what has been corrupted by some Sith like crap, by certain individuals throughout history. The same as there are White-Wiccans, there are those Freemasons whose lambcloth is clean on the back ( Jedi type dude's ). ( It is the one with the skull and bones with the white drops on the black background we want out of power positions ). Also let me reiterate that no-one is do anything illegal for the sake of Gaiaguy's. The thing that worries me more than the OTO getting away with this action, is people being dragged through some Kangaroo court in some crazed witch hunt. We don't need a repeat of the Spanish inquisition days. Let's all do this by the book and show some patience and dignity for Dyson and Vivienne's sake.

My trust and welcome can go to a white Freemason. But I am afraid I draw the line at Thelema. Especially ones that have YET to be INDEPENDENTLY investigated for certain accusations. If and when they are found innocent. Then, and only then, should there be any talk of defemation or libel for Gaiaguy's statements. If they are found not-guilty, then I will eat my hat and shut-up. The world can go back on turning, with both sides throwing off-handed zingers at each other and agreeing to just disagree. It doesn't take me to far to fall from my pedestal, to work out that Aleister Crowley wasn't the Messiah... He was a very naughty boy. I personally reject anything to do with that sort of self indulgent rubbish. But as long as they are out of positions in Government, ( or at least transperently in there ) and not sacrificing or abusing minors. They can do whatever consenting ADULTS do that turns them on. It's just not my cup of tea. At first they had the benefit of the doubt from me. But as Captain Moonlite pointed out... They have really made a paradox for themselves. To those that saw the OTO guilty... They now really look guilty. ( As well as the legal system corrupted ). To those that saw the OTO as innocent... They now have witnessed them make two peaceful, gentle people, with the best of intentions, have their lives ruined. For what a lot of people perceive as complete nonse